by Jason Joyner | Aug 13, 2008 | Blog, CBA, christian fiction, fantasy, reading, speculative fiction, Stephenie Meyer, vampires
If you missed the first post, there were very good comments related to vampires and such in Christian fiction. One of the commenters was Sue Dent, who wrote the mentioned Never Ceese novel.
Evangeline noted my objective take on it – thanks. I was trying to present it evenly to see what people came up with before I threw in my own 2 cents. There are a few different facets to this discussion, so I don’t think it is a simple “yes it is eviiiiiil” or “no, there’s no problem”.
Sue brought out the importance of defining what is meant by Christian fiction. I was referring to the notion of the CBA/ECPA. As Sue noted, this is an umbrella group that is responsible for a certain type of “Christian fiction”, a type that usually gets ownership of that moniker. It is evangelical and conservative in outlook, and there are certain unwritten rules with these type of rules: no cussing, no sex (unless in marriage, and not on page), and as Sue mentioned, certain literary images like vampires, werewolves, etc., would not be generally welcome. (Oddly enough, you can have mass murderers, super assassins, and a high body count, but that’s another post…) “CBA” is almost a brand, but religious or Christian books are not limited to it. Very prominent examples of non-CBA Christian books would be the award-winning Gilead and Peace Like a River, and Sue’s novels. So you likely wouldn’t find a vampire novel in a Christian bookstore due to the CBA, as Sue mentions.
Evangeline talked about vampires as good objects for symbolism, metaphors, or allegory. This could potentially be a worthy use of the undead in CBA fiction. It would take a compelling author with a bold statement of faith to pull it off, likely.
Carole had interesting, thoughtful insights about the possibility of salvation for vampires, based on whether they were “fallen” men or demons. She also notes that vampires often act as a “bad boy” for the good girl to redeem, which might be a little prejudiced toward the “hot male vampires” LOL.
What are my thoughts? Jumbled as usual. I’ll list some out.
1. Regarding the Twilight series specifically, I have finished Twilight and am almost done with New Moon. I share Evangline’s concern about the sensualness of the series – even though Meyers keeps the clothes on and the physical touching limited to arms and faces, she still has a gift for romance and sexual tension. I wouldn’t want a young daughter of mine to read them. I also don’t like that Bella’s desire for immortality comes from wanting to become a vampire like Edward, over God’s ways.
2. We discussed the Twilight series in a home group/Bible study. A few people automatically didn’t like the idea of some many kids reading about vampires and werewolves, considering them evil and demonic, and wondering if Christians should be opening themselves up to such influences. I remember reading Dracula for high school, and my pastor’s wife cautioned me to be prayed up for it, as she read it and felt darkness from it. Considering the Twilight series, I told the group I couldn’t judge it without reading it for myself.
3. I have experienced evil influence from entertainment before. I used to play Dungeons and Dragons with friends around 9th-10th grade. We didn’t go for real heavy use of demons (mostly orcs and the like, Lord of the Ring-ish) and we always made our characters religion “Christian” on the player sheet. Still, it got to us. We had a sleep over one night where we got pretty freaked out with some weird stuff going on. I was the first to leave the group, feeling it was a bad situation. After this these good friends turned on me and I had some bad experiences with them. I wouldn’t be against any role-playing game, but I would not want my kids to play D&D specifically.
4. I have argued before for freedom for a Christian artist to produce the art they feel they should make. I wouldn’t condemn a Christian for using elements that I felt uncomfortable with, but I would use discernment whether it would be something for me to partake in or not.
5. Vampires and other mythological, typically evil creatures should be used carefully, but I think there is room for them to be used in a conscientious manner. I can’t help thinking of C.S. Lewis using witches, giants, the Greek god Bacchus, and other pagan-type supernatural events in his stories. A modern master of using the supernatural for a truly Godly end is Stephen Lawhead in many of his books.
6. Are vampires in essence a perversion of the gospel with their life coming from stealing the blood of people, as opposed to the life-giving power of the blood of Christ? This just came to me while writing this post – don’t know if I have the answer.
I think that’s more than enough to chew on for now. I’ll let y’all sink your teeth into it (grooooan).
by Jason Joyner | Jul 18, 2008 | Blog, fiction, reading, writing craft
Writers are well aware of the importance of first lines. If a reader can open your book and be hooked by the first line or the first paragraph, you’ve baited the hook very well. I’m reading Sol Stein’s Stein on Writing, and his first major chapter after the introduction deals with the critical nature of first lines.
I am also finishing up Try Darkness by James Scott Bell (stick around for my review next week). I think it has the best opening line I’ve read in a looooong time:
“The nun hit me in the mouth and said, ‘Get out of my house.'”
by Jason Joyner | Jul 18, 2008 | Blog, fiction, reading, writing craft
Writers are well aware of the importance of first lines. If a reader can open your book and be hooked by the first line or the first paragraph, you’ve baited the hook very well. I’m reading Sol Stein’s Stein on Writing, and his first major chapter after the introduction deals with the critical nature of first lines.
I am also finishing up Try Darkness by James Scott Bell (stick around for my review next week). I think it has the best opening line I’ve read in a looooong time:
“The nun hit me in the mouth and said, ‘Get out of my house.'”
by Jason Joyner | Jun 26, 2008 | Blog, CSFF, reading, speculative fiction
Hey, it is that time of month again. No, not time to change your air conditioner filter or shave the dog. It is time for the Christian Sci-fi and Fantasy blog tour!
Too bad I goofed this month.
The focus is on Kathryn Mackel’s new book, The Vanished. It is in the Christian Chillers category. Yes, I suppose that is a new category. No, I am not making it up. And I happen to think the name is way cool…
(Anyway)
I thought I had requested a copy or ordered a copy or somesuch. Turns out I didn’t. Bummer. I did enjoy the one book of hers I read for a prior tour, Trackers, (you can read about it here). However, I don’t have any information about the book itself that is original.
Also, usually when I don’t read the book, I highlight other CSFF tour members who have informative posts on it. Well, it seems Becky Miller did that this time. Check out her posts to keep up to date with the best of the tour.
I can offer this teaser from Kathryn’s website, and I invite you to check out my tourmates below. Hopefully I’ll be back on board next month.
After a bomb explodes in a working-class neighborhood of Barcester, Massachusetts, Police sergeant Jason Logan fights to keep order and assist the injured while desperately waiting for aid to arrive. Is the mist from the bomb preventing ambulances and fire trucks from coming in? Or has something far more dire occurred?
As the hours tick by, Logan tracks the terrorist mastermind—whom he learns is not done wreaking havoc. Cut off from modern medical resources, nurse-practitioner Kaya de los Santos treats the injured and soothes the fearful, unaware that her teenaged son Ben is on the run from both the cops and the terrorist.
The vanished begin a battle for survival against enemies they’ve always known—and forces they’ve never even imagined.
Kathryn Mackel is one of the best things to happen to suspense fiction in a long time—and Vanished is her most intense book yet. This book kicks off a series that’s guaranteed to give you hours of white-knuckle reading. —Jim Denney, author of the Timebenders series and Answers to Satisfy the Soul
Brandon Barr
Justin Boyer
Jackie Castle
CSFF Blog Tour
Gene Curtis
D. G. D. Davidson
Jeff Draper
April Erwin
Karina Fabian
Beth Goddard
Andrea Graham
Todd Michael Greene
Katie Hart
Christopher Hopper
Joleen Howell
Carol Keen
Mike Lynch
Terri Main
Margaret
Shannon McNear
Melissa Meeks
Rebecca LuElla Miller
John W. Otte
Deena Peterson
Rachelle
Steve Rice
Ashley Rutherford
Mirtika or Mir’s Here
Chawna Schroeder
Stuart Stockton
Steve Trower
Speculative Faith
Linda Wichman
Laura Williams
Timothy Wise
by Jason Joyner | Jun 26, 2008 | Blog, CSFF, reading, speculative fiction
Hey, it is that time of month again. No, not time to change your air conditioner filter or shave the dog. It is time for the Christian Sci-fi and Fantasy blog tour!
Too bad I goofed this month.
The focus is on Kathryn Mackel’s new book, The Vanished. It is in the Christian Chillers category. Yes, I suppose that is a new category. No, I am not making it up. And I happen to think the name is way cool…
(Anyway)
I thought I had requested a copy or ordered a copy or somesuch. Turns out I didn’t. Bummer. I did enjoy the one book of hers I read for a prior tour, Trackers, (you can read about it here). However, I don’t have any information about the book itself that is original.
Also, usually when I don’t read the book, I highlight other CSFF tour members who have informative posts on it. Well, it seems Becky Miller did that this time. Check out her posts to keep up to date with the best of the tour.
I can offer this teaser from Kathryn’s website, and I invite you to check out my tourmates below. Hopefully I’ll be back on board next month.
After a bomb explodes in a working-class neighborhood of Barcester, Massachusetts, Police sergeant Jason Logan fights to keep order and assist the injured while desperately waiting for aid to arrive. Is the mist from the bomb preventing ambulances and fire trucks from coming in? Or has something far more dire occurred?
As the hours tick by, Logan tracks the terrorist mastermind—whom he learns is not done wreaking havoc. Cut off from modern medical resources, nurse-practitioner Kaya de los Santos treats the injured and soothes the fearful, unaware that her teenaged son Ben is on the run from both the cops and the terrorist.
The vanished begin a battle for survival against enemies they’ve always known—and forces they’ve never even imagined.
Kathryn Mackel is one of the best things to happen to suspense fiction in a long time—and Vanished is her most intense book yet. This book kicks off a series that’s guaranteed to give you hours of white-knuckle reading. —Jim Denney, author of the Timebenders series and Answers to Satisfy the Soul
Brandon Barr
Justin Boyer
Jackie Castle
CSFF Blog Tour
Gene Curtis
D. G. D. Davidson
Jeff Draper
April Erwin
Karina Fabian
Beth Goddard
Andrea Graham
Todd Michael Greene
Katie Hart
Christopher Hopper
Joleen Howell
Carol Keen
Mike Lynch
Terri Main
Margaret
Shannon McNear
Melissa Meeks
Rebecca LuElla Miller
John W. Otte
Deena Peterson
Rachelle
Steve Rice
Ashley Rutherford
Mirtika or Mir’s Here
Chawna Schroeder
Stuart Stockton
Steve Trower
Speculative Faith
Linda Wichman
Laura Williams
Timothy Wise
by Jason Joyner | Jun 17, 2008 | Blog, CFBA, fiction, reading, reviews
This week, the Christian Fiction Blog Alliance is introducing Deep In The Heart Of Trouble (Bethany House June 1, 2008) by Deeanne Gist.
My Wife Says:
She has been following Deeanne Gist since I found out about her first book being picked up as “edgy inspirational” fiction from Bethany House editor Dave Long, who established the (mostly quiet anymore, but once quite profound) faith*in*fiction blog. Beccy once again enjoyed Deep in the Heart of Trouble, the first sequel by Gist (this book follows Courting Trouble).
According to Bec, she really liked the main character Essie for her spunkiness and self-sufficiency. It was a fun book and a fun plot. Everything came together in a very satisfying way. She always passes a Deeanne Gist book around to all her friends. When it comes to romance, Gist is a can’t miss.
ABOUT THE AUTHOR:
Deeanne Gist has been a busy lady. She had a career in elementary education. She raised four children. In fifteen years she has: run a home accessory/antique business, member of the press, penned freelance journalism for a few well-known publications, People, Parents, Family Fun and more. She was the CFO for her husband’s engineering company, she did all this in her home.
She also founded a publishing corporation for the purpose of developing, producing and marketing products which would reinforce family values, teach children responsibility and provide character building activities. In answer to Gist’s fervent prayers, God sent a mainstream publisher to her door who licensed her parenting I Did It!® product line and committed to publish the next generation of her system, thus freeing Gist to return to her writing.
Eight months later, she submitted A Bride Most Begrudging to Bethany House Publishers and they picked it up for their new “edgy inspirational” line of historical fiction. After its release in July 2005, Bride hit eight best seller lists and has sold over 100,000 copies and won the Christy Award for BEST ROMANCE 2006. The Measure of a Lady was her 2006 summer release. It hit five best seller lists and won the Christy Award for BEST ROMANCE 2007. Gist is contracted to have a new book come out every summer. Courting Trouble was her 2007 summer release and it hit three best seller lists.
Deeanne lives in Texas with her husband of twenty-four years. They have two kids in high school, two in college.
ABOUT THE BOOK
A Texas-Sized Tale of Unexpected Love
Essie Spreckelmeyer is the last woman anyone in Corsicana, Texas, expected to see with a man on her arm. Independent and outspoken, she’s known more for riding bicycles in outrageous bloomers than for catching a man’s eye.
And the last man who seems willing to give her a second glance is Tony Morgan, newly hired at Spreckelmeyer’s oil company. The disinherited son of an oil baron, Tony wants most to restore his name and regain his lost fortune–not lose his heart to this headstrong blonde. She confounds, contradicts, and confuses him. Sometimes he doesn’t know if she’s driving him toward the aisle or the end of his rope.
That’s how life is …Deep In The Heart Of Trouble
If you would like to read the first chapter, go HERE